Have you heard of the Impossible Burger? As you can see from the photo, it looks (and many say tastes) a lot like your favorite fast-food beef patty with all the fixin’s, but it’s actually very different. Offered on a handful of menus in the U.S.– at restaurants like Public House in San Francisco, Bareburger in New York City, and Crossroads Kitchen in Los Angeles – the Impossible Burger bills itself as the “game changer of a burger” that is 0% cow. That’s right, it’s made from plants, not animals.
Nick Halla is one of the architects behind the Impossible Burger and, more broadly, the emerging plant-based food movement. Halla, who grew up on a dairy farm, studied engineering at the University of Minnesota, and earned graduate degrees in business and energy and environmental science at Stanford, was the first employee of Impossible Foods in Redwood City, Calif. He is now chief strategy officer. Under the guidance of CEO and founder Patrick Brown, a biochemist and professor emeritus at Stanford’s School of Medicine, Impossible Foods is on a mission to research and understand the fundamentals of the properties that drive products like meat, fish and dairy. From there, the company finds pieces in the plant-based world to help recreate those foods.
“If we take the food approach to solving this problem, we would end up with a better veggie burger, which is not going to get us to where we need to be,” says Halla, who realized while studying renewable energy sources like solar and wind power in grad school that he could have a much greater impact on the sustainability of the planet through food. “The first 50 employees at Impossible Foods were almost all scientists and researchers looking at what makes meat, fish and dairy what they are. By really understanding the science of what happens, you can make simple solutions in the end.”
Solutions like the Impossible Burger. Impossible Foods’ first product for consumers, the Impossible Burger has a few key ingredients like coconut oil and potato protein – nothing artificial. The company just announced that it is in mid-construction of its first production facility in Oakland, Calif., which will soon make the Impossible Burger available in more than 1,000 restaurants in the U.S., up from its current 11. Word on the street is that the company has even been talking with McDonald’s as a potential seller of the plant-based burger. Impossible Foods’ growth, as well as similar news from competitors like Los Angeles-based Beyond Meat, suggests that innovation to make the foods we eat and love even better has only just begun.
KWHS interviewer Julia Drake, a junior at Hopewell Valley Central High School in Pennington, N.J., sat down with Halla during a recent trip to Silicon Valley to learn more about the science and passion behind plant-based foods. Be sure to listen to that podcast at the top of this article!
An edited version of the podcast transcript appears below.
Knowledge@Wharton High School: Hi. I’m Julia Drake with KWHS, and I’m happy to be here in Redwood City, California, speaking with Nick Halla, chief strategy officer of Impossible Foods, the creator of the Impossible Burger. Nick, thank you for joining us.
Nick Halla: Thank you for having me.
KWHS: So, can you share with us the history and the purpose of Impossible Foods? What is the company all about?
Halla: We started six years ago, in 2011, really looking at the food system and trying to find a better way to produce the foods that we love today. If we look at how much — how big an environmental impact that there is behind our food system today, and behind the way we use animals as a technology to produce food, if we want to keep eating the meats, dairies, and fish products we love, we have to produce them a better way.
So, what we did at Impossible Foods is start looking at the fundamentals of what makes meat, fish, dairy — what they are. And then [we looked] in the plant-based world to find simple solutions for how we can recreate those experiences that we love, to make delicious products that chefs can use.
KWHS: You talk about transforming the global food system. Why do we even need to invent a better way to make the foods that we love?
Halla: Today, when we look at animals as a food production system, 1,000 years ago, it made a lot of sense. But as we’ve added more and more people onto the planet, the impact behind that system has become very, very large. So today, more than 30% of the world’s land surface is dedicated to animal farming. More than 25% of all fresh water is used for that. And it’s more greenhouse gases than all transportation combined. And when the UN Food and Agriculture Organization predicts that [consumption] is going to increase 70% by 2050, it just doesn’t work to use the same system we do today, to help feed people delicious foods that they love.
But if we look at it from a technology standpoint, what cows are great at doing is producing foods that people like. But they’re very inefficient. So, for every 33 grams of protein that go into a beef cow, we consume one out, in meat. And so if we go to the plants, we can take a 3% efficient technology and make it much better. And we could feed the world in 2050 with a tiny fraction of the environmental impact we have.
KWHS: I have to admit, I’ve never actually tried an Impossible Burger.
Halla: Well, we’ll have to make that change soon.
KWHS: Yes. Though I’ve heard it tastes like the real thing. What is involved in the process of creating a new product like that?
Halla: We spent the first two years developing a new platform for how to make food. Our founder, Dr. Patrick Brown, from Stanford, had spent 25 years as a medical researcher. And we applied a lot of the things that he had done in research, for how to really look at food. We’ll take an example for the Impossible Burger — that you’ll definitely need to go try soon.
We looked at what gives [beef] the properties that it has. Why is all that flavor generated when you put it on the grill? Why does it turn from something soft and malleable you can make into tartare, a meatball, or a burger, and then change properties as it cooks? And when we understood those fundamentals, then we looked in the plant-based world and how to recreate and pick those pieces out.
So, we built a team within the first two years, about 50 scientists, really looking into this problem. And an example of how this works is, when we started looking at flavor and aroma, we learned that there’s one protein that drives almost all the flavor of meat. Whether you’re chicken, pork, or beef. And it’s a protein called myoglobin, and it’s a heme protein. And heme is in plants, animals, and really in any part of life.
And so we looked in the plant-based world, and found a heme protein called legume hemoglobin. And it drives all the same chemistry as you cook. So, when you eat the Impossible Burger, and why it tastes like meat, is because all the same chemistry happens to our Impossible Burger as happens with meat made from an animal.
KWHS: What are your responsibilities as chief strategy officer?
Halla: So, as you can imagine, as a small team over the last six years that we’ve been growing, it’s been pretty much anything and everything over time. As we’ve grown now, we want to focus a lot on what our big mission is. That this industry is massive, and people want more and more food, as middle classes rise and the population continues to grow. So, a lot of my role is focused on, from a strategy standpoint, how can we accelerate delivering more and more products to people here in the U.S., worldwide? What are the next products? And how do we really build the business to have the impact worldwide that we want to?
KWHS: Where do you think the plant-based food movement is headed in the future?
Halla: I think it’s going to continue to grow and it’s going to grow really quickly. A couple weeks ago, I was on a panel talking about the future of food. And you look at food today, compared to even what it was 100 years ago, there’s been a lot of changes. And now five years ago until today, there [are] a lot of changes.
We’re in San Francisco right now. Five years ago, there was very little talk about what we could do from an innovation standpoint in food. In my background, I grew up on a dairy farm. I worked at General Mills, designing new products and manufacturing systems. And what I saw in those industries was really slow-moving.
When I came out to San Francisco, I was looking to get into energy, because renewables [like solar and wind energy] were where things were happening. But now, people around the world are realizing that there’s so much opportunity for food to become much better, from an affordability standpoint, nutritional standpoint, health, and really even the properties of what we love. And so, I think there’s going to be more and more innovation going into food. And the opportunities and options for consumers, and what they can actually purchase in restaurants and grocery stores, and even directly to their home, is going to multiply very quickly.
KWHS: Thank you so much.
Halla: You’re welcome.
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The science of food is Impossible Foods’ core mission. How does its approach differ from another company that might add preservatives to extend the shelf life of a product? Isn’t that also a scientific solution?
Have you eaten an impossible burger? If not, would you? Why or why not? Debate in a group the benefits and challenges of the plant-based food movement. Is it possible to create a food system that is full of taste as well as environmental benefits? Post some of your thoughts in the comments section of this article. Impossible Foods would love to hear your ideas!
The impossible burger, is now out and people are trying it to see how it taste. The impossible burger is made completely from plants no animals, so you know it taste boring. However some say it taste like an actual beef burger. The ceo of the company is hoping to soon have the burger in 1000 restaurants and up it from the 11 they have now. By 2050 they hope to get rid of beef burgers and completely replace them with the impossible burger.
Making the “Impossible Burger” does seem like a good step in the direction of making food healthier, but you have to think on what these fast food companies will do with this. They’ve been successful for so many years and people still don’t heed from its health dangers. The taste will have to be more appealing than other company’s. As said, it isn’t a bad idea, the competition will be high.
I would love to have an Impossible Burger it seems like there idea of making the burgers 100% out of plants instead of animals might be better than eating the animals or fake processed food. Some say there burgers are healthier and taste just like any regular beef burger and is made out of plants which sounds delicious. In the future the CEO of Impossible Burger hopes to have 1000 restaurants across the nation and by the year 2050 they hope to get rid of beef burgers and have the nation eating Impossible Burger.
The Impossible burger is different from other companies mostly because it has different types of ingredients like meat and vegetables. Most normal burgers don’t have as much protein as the impossible burger therefore it has a different taste and a not similar type of ingredients. If I would try an impossible burger, I would mostly because its made out of vegetables then they do with meat. Meat can be a problem in a burger for example it could defect your stamina and show high quality fat.
I have not tried an Impossible burger, but I would be interested in trying one because if we can get the same benefits from plant based foods, many problems could be solved such as world hunger. I think that it is very possible to have good tasting food that is also beneficial to people’s health and the environment. I think that Impossible Burgers can become very popular in the coming years, once they start to open up more restaurants across the country, and if they are healthier than regular beef then why not make the switch to a plant based alternative
I love food. As a foodie and as someone who cares deeply about our planet, I am intensely moved and inspired by this unique podcast.
Early this week, Hurricane Harvey hit Texas causing untold devastation. With more than 200,000 homes destroyed and the lives of over 400,000 people impacted, this has now become one of the most devastating natural calamities that our country has ever endured. But I believe this massive destruction and human tragedy could have been far less severe had we moved towards a plant based food production and consumption model.
According to a report published by United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html), animal farming now accounts for 20% to 30% of global greenhouse gas emissions, meaning it is a serious contributor to global warming. Most scientists agree that global warming has caused the shedding of a lot of sea ice. In fact, a NASA report estimates that sea ice has been shedding at an average annual rate of 13,500 square miles since 1979, the equivalent of losing an area of sea ice larger than the state of Maryland every year (https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/nasa-study-shows-global-sea-ice-diminishing-despite-antarctic-gains). This leads to rising sea levels, which make hurricane storm surges more and more dangerous as time passes on. A storm surge today reaches higher than it would have earlier because it now starts from a higher level due to global warming. Hurricane Harvey probably had as big an impact as it did because sea levels have been rising faster along the Texas Gulf Coast than the average according to a study by National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (https://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/ocs/hsrp/galveston2016/Tissot_HSRP_March2016_Presentation.pdf).
Apart from the rise in sea levels, global warming also causes hurricanes to be more intense and produces more rain. A hurricane’s source of fuel is warm water since warmer water means more water vapor will be available to power the hurricane. Harvey’s fuel source, the Gulf of Mexico, has been unusually warm in recent years due to global warming. Harvey changed from a tropical depression to a deadly category 4 hurricane within a matter of 48 hours.
The following interactive chart published by New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/24/opinion/sunday/what-could-disappear.html?mcubz=1) was a real eye opener for me – it shows 24 major US cities that could disappear due to flooding caused by global warming.
As I reflect and pray for the people of Texas, this podcast has given me new hope that entrepreneurs like Nick Halla will not only be able to fundamentally change the way food is made but also in the process save our planet and protect our lives.
Thank you KWHS for publishing a truly inspiring podcast!
this is an idea that is going to change the way we eat not only by taken care of nature but saving it. silicon valley is where almost all the technology from usa is develop so they don’t have the necessity to do this “organic” food but they only want to use all the knowledge for something that will save the future of how we eat and what. so in conclusion is not that today we need this innovation but it will help the future even if we can’t see it. this product will not make an impact first but with time the people will accept whats best for everyone and the world.
I think we need innovation in places like Silicon Valley to redesign the food industry so that in the future we don’t run out of essential resources. If we don’t redesign, when we do run out, we will be searching to find new alternatives, making it harder to accomplish our goal.
The Impossible foods mission differs from other companies ways of preservation because it is not harmful to you. Yes, preservatives to extend prolongevity, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are good. They can cause breathing difficulty, heart damage, and even cancer.
No, I have not tried an Impossible burger. I think I would try it , because why not. If their overall intention is to “recreate” the classic burger, with plant-based ingredients , it couldn’t taste that bad. I think it is possible to create a food system full of taste, which also has health and environmental benefits. Lets do it!