3 Questions for Sarah Light of Wharton’s Climate Center

by Diana Drake
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The Wharton Climate Center, which studies climate change, renewable energy, air and water pollution and biodiversity, and is part of the Wharton School’s ESG (environmental, social and governance) Initiative, is co-directed by Sarah E. Light, a Wharton professor of legal studies and business ethics. We caught up with Dr. Light recently to ask a few questions about business and the environment.

Wharton Global Youth Program: Where does the market stand in balancing growth and business priorities with ESG commitments? Specifically, are companies aligning environmental concerns with profitability?

Sarah Light: This is a complicated time for ESG. On the one hand, jurisdictions like the European Union and California are moving forward with mandatory rules on disclosure of ESG factors in financial reporting, so global firms doing business in multiple markets have not only some private (shareholder) pressure to take these environmental, social and governance factors into account, but also legal rules requiring them to disclose how they manage risks, consider opportunities and govern these issues.  In addition, market forces require many firms – think of the insurance industry as an obvious example – to take climate risk into account. On the other hand, some states within the U.S. have adopted laws that prohibit the states from doing business with financial companies that take ESG factors into account. I would anticipate at the very least that there will be significant rollbacks of regulations by the federal government starting in January; whether the federal government will go as far as the states is unclear.

Wharton Global Youth: What are the main challenges businesses face when trying to implement ESG initiatives related to climate?

Dr. Light: I think there are of course the political factors noted above. In addition, some of the challenges relate to the measurement of emissions, especially within a firm’s value chain. There are protocols in place to estimate supply chain and downstream (so-called Scope 3) emissions, but there are assumptions that come into play, and this poses some challenges.

Wharton Global Youth: How do you see the role of artificial intelligence evolving in the context of ESG and climate action?

Dr. Light: AI may be both great and terrible. AI shows enormous promise in certain areas like optimizing the [electric] grid’s efficiency, for example, as well as in climate modeling and weather prediction, which is extremely important for disaster prevention and resilience.  But AI is hugely energy and water-intensive. A search using ChatGPT can use eight times the energy as a Google search. When people are looking up recipes or generating an itinerary for vacations using AI and Large Language Models (LLMs), I don’t think most people realize the energy costs.

Watch the full 2024 Wharton Climate Prof HERE.

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